The heavy tail of valence
New strategies to quantify and reduce extreme suffering
By Alfredo Parra-Hinojosa
March 21, 2025
In this talk at Newspeak House in London, I discuss the importance of addressing extreme suffering, highlighting cluster headaches as a vivid example of severe pain that's often overlooked by common global health metrics. I explain the shortcomings of tools like DALYs in representing the true severity of intense yet less prevalent pain conditions. I also present promising solutions, including advocating for psychedelic treatments, investigating alternative remedies like chanca piedra for kidney stones, and promoting focused research.
Timestamps
- 0:01 - Introduction to extreme suffering (cluster headaches, kidney stones).
- 0:06 - Motivation (David Pierce & Brian Tomasik).
- 0:33 - Alfredo Parra's journey to QRI.
- 1:48 - QRI's focus: Ethical, intuitive, neuroscientific, pragmatic reasons.
- 4:01 - Quantifying human extreme suffering.
- 5:01 - Cluster headaches case study.
- 5:43 - Pain description and intensity.
- 6:58 - Episodic vs. chronic headaches.
- 8:03 - Global pain burden quantification (person-years/days).
- 12:07 - Limitations of DALY metrics for intense pain.
- 15:22 - "Surgery without anesthesia" analogy.
- 18:38 - Ceiling effect in pain measurement.
- 20:36 - Kidney stones: prevalence and intensity.
- 21:31 - Chanca Piedra (herbal remedy) analysis.
- 29:14 - Call to action for QRI's research.
- 29:57 - QRI's ongoing work: psychedelics, pain visualization.
- 31:17 - Cluster headaches vs. migraines.
- 33:23 - Barriers to addressing cluster headaches.
- 34:16 - Strategies for awareness and funding.
- 36:50 - Non-hallucinogenic psychedelic analogs.
Links
- The heavy-tailed valence hypothesis: the human capacity for vast variation in pleasure/pain and how to test it
- Logarithmic Scales of Pleasure and Pain: Rating, Ranking, and Comparing Peak Experiences Suggest the Existence of Long Tails for Bliss and Suffering
- The Quest for a Stone-Free World: Chanca Piedra (Phyllanthus niruri) as an Acute and Prophylactic Treatment for Kidney Stones and Their Associated Extreme Negative Valence
- Quantifying the Global Burden of Extreme Pain from Cluster Headaches